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MPS deck...paint it?

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Topic: MPS deck...paint it?
Posted By: 29er397
Subject: MPS deck...paint it?
Date Posted: 17 Feb 08 at 7:16pm
OK guys, just bought myself a prototype MPS, and a bargain it was too! however, it does have some aesthetic issues, one of which being shoddy repairs with epoxy and gel coating on the grippy part of the deck, it really doesn't look pretty! I was thinking a quick layer of white paint over the grippy stuff (not the shiny parts) should have it looking rather lovely in comparison.

Any thoughts? best type of paint for the job?

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Posted By: Chris Bridges
Date Posted: 17 Feb 08 at 7:26pm
005? one i was going to buy then got advised not to buy prototype for various reasons.

Would it be better to sand it down and re do it properly?


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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 17 Feb 08 at 7:57pm
I actually think the proptotype is better, doesnt it have carbon racks and full carbon hull?  an you not try and get a paint match by your local car body shop if you take the boat to them they could probably mix up the right colour and spray the repair for you??

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Posted By: 29er397
Date Posted: 17 Feb 08 at 7:58pm
i dread to think how much sand paper i would go through, plus, i dont really have the time or money to completely regrip it, its just an aesthetic thing. can anyone see any problems with just painting it?

Yes it was advertised as 005. Im pretty sure i must be the only person who has bought a MPS for under 3 grand, fair enough its a prototype but for those of us who aren't loaded its the only way into a fantastic class. There are few differences (all carbon hull, carbon racks, carbon rudder stock etc), the deck layout is identical, only the moulding is slightly deeper at the back. It does have some cosmetic issues, but im not that fussy, its gonna be fun!

Edit: got an air compressor and spray gun so would probably spray it myself.


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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 17 Feb 08 at 8:12pm
What i would do then is get the boat to a local bodyshop and ask them to mix you the paint and then spray it yourself it would probably only cost you 20 in one of the lads top pockets for the paint!! make sure they mix it to the right colour though!

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Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 17 Feb 08 at 8:37pm
will you be alowed to race that. must come in a long way under weight

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Posted By: 29er397
Date Posted: 17 Feb 08 at 8:42pm
yup, its totally class legal, not sure what the weight is, i guess there must be weights in it somewhere.


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Posted By: Kudlinski
Date Posted: 17 Feb 08 at 8:43pm

on the musto skiff site it says its full recognised for racing.

saw the advert.



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Posted By: Chris Bridges
Date Posted: 17 Feb 08 at 9:08pm
Yes but I have heard if you do well at anything big and do well the ISAF make a fuss because its meant to be a one design class... By class rules its fine though.

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Posted By: 29er397
Date Posted: 17 Feb 08 at 10:35pm
I'll not have to worry, there are far better sailors in the MPS fleet than me, who will have sailed them for far longer, and will be able to afford far newer sails and kit. Its confirmed by ISAF that its OK to race, its an identical hull and sail plan, the only thing that could make a difference is the mast which is again the prototype superspars one, but by class rules its fine.

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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 18 Feb 08 at 7:54am

No disrespect to Furgus but i doubt winning the Musto nationals straight away is going to be his problem! Not as long as the Stenhouses are still in the class! It seemd to me an ideal way into a class which has really high risidual values! From what i have seen the Musto class seems really friendly and i think they would just be really happy to see another boat at the opens! I can't see ISAF even bothering abou it to be honest even if a major handicap event was won such as the Tiger or Bloody mary! It measure as a Musto, its recognised by the class! What has it got to do with ISAF?

 

In fact what has ISAF got to do with it at all ?

 



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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 18 Feb 08 at 8:58am
Originally posted by Merlinboy

What has it got to do with ISAF?

 

In fact what has ISAF got to do with it at all ?

 

 

It's an International class. This means the class rules are administered by the ISAF- and any rule changes/exceptions to One-Design status etc have to be approved.



Posted By: 29er397
Date Posted: 18 Feb 08 at 9:51am
and hence as it has been approved there are no issues

back to my original question.... merlinboy suggested car paint, would it be up to the job? any other sort of paint that might be better? baring in mind i only want a very thin coat so as not to add too much weight.


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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 18 Feb 08 at 9:58am

Originally posted by Chris Bridges

Yes but I have heard if you do well at anything big and do well the ISAF make a fuss because its meant to be a one design class... By class rules its fine though.

Where did you hear that Chris?



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Posted By: Chris Turner
Date Posted: 18 Feb 08 at 11:34am

I'd follow Merlinboy's suggestion and get a car body shop to have a look, they're cheap as chips and the finish will be very good. 

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Or better still, just drive down the road and have it done properly at Ovington Boats.



Posted By: Chris Bridges
Date Posted: 18 Feb 08 at 11:47am
Originally posted by Guest#260

Originally posted by Chris Bridges

Yes but I have heard if you do well at anything big and do well the ISAF make a fuss because its meant to be a one design class... By class rules its fine though.

Where did you hear that Chris?



Ant Chapman


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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 18 Feb 08 at 11:51am
Originally posted by Chris Bridges

Originally posted by Guest#260

Originally posted by Chris Bridges

Yes but I have heard if you do well at anything big and do well the ISAF make a fuss because its meant to be a one design class... By class rules its fine though.

Where did you hear that Chris?



Ant Chapman

Unfortunatly he mis-informed you ...



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Posted By: Chris Bridges
Date Posted: 18 Feb 08 at 11:53am
OK, fair enough.. Sounds like the boat was already bought anyway as I only found out at the weekend. He said at the worlds (not sure what year) one did well and a fuss was made by ISAF.

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Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 18 Feb 08 at 1:30pm
talk to bov itis his old one

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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 18 Feb 08 at 1:33pm

Originally posted by Chris Bridges

OK, fair enough.. Sounds like the boat was already bought anyway as I only found out at the weekend. He said at the worlds (not sure what year) one did well and a fuss was made by ISAF.

I guess you must have missunderstood him ....



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Posted By: 29er397
Date Posted: 18 Feb 08 at 5:24pm
Originally posted by olly_love

talk to bov itis his old one


am doing so presently
Cheers anyway


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Posted By: Granite
Date Posted: 18 Feb 08 at 6:36pm
I would not paint it.
To get the top coat to stick you will need a primer, then the top coat. It will all add weight and stop the grip being grippy. Plus as the paint is on the grippy stuff it will wear very quickly giving a mottled rubbish appearance as the primer will be a different color.

(speaking as someone who has done it before)


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Posted By: 29er397
Date Posted: 18 Feb 08 at 8:13pm
So its looking like sanding the old stuff down and re-gripping is the best way to go?  ant advice on the best stuff to use? any tips on preparation so that it'll stick as best as possible to the carbon deck?

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Posted By: Neal_g
Date Posted: 19 Feb 08 at 8:14pm

fergus best think i would do is buy some deck paint an off white international one and paint the floor one it gives you grip and 2 it sticks to most surfaces nicely and doesnt need undercoat i'm sure someone else will say it doesnt work but its worked on 2 fireballs and a cherub.

is the boat white i cant remember since last seeing it or is it that silver grey gelcoat that everyone seems to use

ps forgot to mention its what i'll be using on the cherub to paint over the carbon deck i;ve jsut put on

 



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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 19 Feb 08 at 9:00pm
Why not just stick progrip over the deck?

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Posted By: 29er397
Date Posted: 19 Feb 08 at 9:11pm
Hi Guys, thanks for the advice. Seeking the advice of Ovi's/Bov atm. seems that im likely just to patch it for now and get sailing, then sort it properly another time. The progrip idea is a gooden, might consider it!

Thanks again
Ferg


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