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Topic: Feeling Dirty.. (Contender Content)
Posted By: iGRF
Subject: Feeling Dirty.. (Contender Content)
Date Posted: 17 Dec 21 at 2:14pm
So finally I've given in and conformed, you even get a certificate, like a logbook, telling you not to f**k about with it. First thing happens, I couldn't hide it down the boat park cos they're digging it up and resurfacing, so red handed it's in the drive, the Mrs now figuring on what she wants next as compensation after the tongue lashing (Why do you need ANOTHER boat!.)

A Contender FFS, well I guess at least I'll be able to walk under the boom, if that is I mange to launch it without getting a hernia.

And I'm going to get such a thrashing when its windy, probably wether they like it or not, I'll have to get a smaller rag at the end of the day, what's worse, not going out, or being chucked out for not being class legal?

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Posted By: Old bloke
Date Posted: 17 Dec 21 at 4:24pm
The class rules only give maximum sizes. It looks to me as if you can make your sail as small as you want.
Personally I would just put in big flattening reef at the clew of an oldish sail to start with


Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 17 Dec 21 at 5:37pm
Good luck with the Contender. I would say if you haven't got an aluminium trolley get one as every kilo saved up the beach is worth it. Oh and try and sail somewhere with a shallow concrete ramp.

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 17 Dec 21 at 5:40pm
Hope it goes well for you Smile

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Posted By: Grumpycat
Date Posted: 18 Dec 21 at 12:00am
I would like to say I hope it goes well for you. But in truth I hope you have a big hernia dragging it  up the slipway . I hope you understand the fact I dislike hypocrisy even more than I dislike you . Wink


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 18 Dec 21 at 12:20am
Me? I put the hyp into hypocrisy..


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Posted By: A2Z
Date Posted: 18 Dec 21 at 8:51am
Originally posted by Grumpycat

I would like to say I hope it goes well for you. But in truth I hope you have a big hernia dragging it  up the slipway . I hope you understand the fact I dislike hypocrisy even more than I dislike you . Wink
Quite the charmer, arenít you?Confused


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 18 Dec 21 at 9:58am
He volunteers in the children's ward over Christmas

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Posted By: Grumpycat
Date Posted: 18 Dec 21 at 11:05am
Originally posted by iGRF

Me? I put the hyp into hypocrisy..

I knew you would understand my comment unlike some other people.LOL


Posted By: Grumpycat
Date Posted: 18 Dec 21 at 11:31am

Quite the charmer, arenít you?Confused
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I think I am a kind and considerate person , I just dislike grf and have no time to be nice to him anymore .
I been on this forum for over a decade as has grf. We have had loads of disagreements and he knows Iíve always thought his behaviour to people that disagree with him to be aggressive,personal and vile . He is the perfect troll Smile

The bottom line is ,I dislike grf , he knows it  but DOESNT CARE and I think we are both happy with the situation.LOL


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 18 Dec 21 at 3:45pm
I've long known it, I'm a windsurfer, nobody likes me, everybody hates me, I don't care, I should support Millwall, but instead I choose to torment dinghy sailors it's my God given talent. That Grumpycat, he just can't help himself, probably hates himself doing it in fact, but still he answers and it makes my day. And what a boring life it would be if we all sat round loving each other and saying nice things all the time, we could even join the liberal democrats.



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Posted By: Grumpycat
Date Posted: 18 Dec 21 at 5:33pm
Originally posted by iGRF

I've long known it, I'm a windsurfer, nobody likes me, everybody hates me, I don't care, I should support Millwall, but instead I choose to torment dinghy sailors it's my God given talent. That Grumpycat, he just can't help himself, probably hates himself doing it in fact, but still he answers and it makes my day. And what a boring life it would be if we all sat round loving each other and saying nice things all the time, we could even join the liberal democrats.


I told them you would get it Wink

Love you , you tiny atom of of human vileness LOL

PS Happy Christmas and try to enjoy the contender Smile


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 18 Dec 21 at 6:16pm
Bit of a lurve fest goin on

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Robert


Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 27 Dec 21 at 12:55pm
Anyone looking for a secondhand Contender?  Available early 2022.

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Happily living in the past


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 27 Dec 21 at 4:00pm
Only selling due to bad back?

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Robert


Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 27 Dec 21 at 4:32pm
Cry  it'll be a sad day when I have to sell mine, mind you in benevolent conditions there's no easier boat to sail so when that goes I doubt I'll be sailing much else in the dinghy line.


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 27 Dec 21 at 4:44pm
keel boat?

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Posted By: Grumpycat
Date Posted: 27 Dec 21 at 6:13pm
Originally posted by davidyacht

Anyone looking for a secondhand Contender?  Available early 2022.

That is one of the only two ways this can pan out lol. The boat will be either ,

1) the the best boat ever and it will allow our resident sailing god to demonstrate his sublime skills to his adoring fans.

Or 

2) the boats a dog and itís the RYA/class associations  fault. Oh itís both their fault he was dog slow, plus the boat will be up of sale before the end of February. LOL

I await more news with baited breath .Smile



Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 27 Dec 21 at 7:30pm
I already know it's a dog and before I've even sailed it. I consider the fact I've been forced to give in to purchasing a last century anachronism a tragic epitath on the grave of the dingy Industry.

But it's the same as the good sailors at my club use, and the other good sailors use a Laser, not much choice really, so like any other class when it's light and or there are tide anomalys I shall probably do OK and when it's windy I'll have my ass handed to me.

It's a pity no ingenuity can be applied to alter that, can't have class rules being broken so the little guys get to beat the big guys can we?

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Posted By: Grumpycat
Date Posted: 27 Dec 21 at 7:32pm
When does it get its first sail ?


Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 27 Dec 21 at 10:52pm
Ah Sleepy. I missed the sarcasm from davidyacht, naturally assumed such a fan of the classics would have a Contender in his quiver.  


Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 28 Dec 21 at 8:26am
Originally posted by Do Different

Ah Sleepy. I missed the sarcasm from davidyacht, naturally assumed such a fan of the classics would have a Contender in his quiver.  

Tried one many moons ago, probably sailed it at the wrong place for it to be a fun experience.  Anything that gets you on the water has to be a good thing, but I suspect that what GRF is looking for does not exist or will be simply too challenging Ö I cannot help thinking that he will go in a loop of complexity and realise that he could go as fast on a board, which he can carry up the beach


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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 28 Dec 21 at 11:55am
Originally posted by davidyacht

Originally posted by Do Different

Ah Sleepy. I missed the sarcasm from davidyacht, naturally assumed such a fan of the classics would have a Contender in his quiver.  

Tried one many moons ago, probably sailed it at the wrong place for it to be a fun experience.  Anything that gets you on the water has to be a good thing, but I suspect that what GRF is looking for does not exist or will be simply too challenging Ö I cannot help thinking that he will go in a loop of complexity and realise that he could go as fast on a board, which he can carry up the beach

Back to the Musto and some serious application of time on the water maybe?


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Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 28 Dec 21 at 3:59pm
Not my business to tell anyone what to do but I also wondered about Musto suitability, Farr 3.7 is short and twitchy. 
I had a club mate with a Musto and he swore the hull form was more stable than a Contender. Being so light, I wonder if a Musto could still perform well with a smaller rig in 49erFX style.
Contender is heavy and long with considerable wetted area, can't see it going well with less sail. Sweet spot for short lightweights such as myself and perhaps iGRF is when I'm straight leg wiring and the big boys are still perching.


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 28 Dec 21 at 5:44pm
IIRC Graeme had a Musto back when he first came over from the dark side 

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Posted By: mongrel
Date Posted: 04 Jan 22 at 12:14pm
Have you got any pictures to post up of this Contender?  
Is it brand new?  
Bonezzi or Hartley, etc.?  
What mast/sail will you use?


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 04 Jan 22 at 12:28pm
It's an old boat but in exceptionally good nick couple of previous careful owners and one who didn't use it too much, my local Contender hot shot came down with me to inspect and pick it up. Is it a Bob Hoare built model (don't profess to know much about history except to avoid Rondar) wavelenght sail which is pretty much the de rigeur preference and a crispy new P&B which is an unknown quantity I think the sail no is 704. Has a carbon mast and boom which is good and I already have a spare skinny carbon to mess about with in the fullness of time, but it didn't do me any favours on my fireblade (hybrid) experiment which failed its perfomance platform for trapezing test, it's still a great hiking single hander and an absolute demon in the light but it's not going to get me anywhere on my quest to beat the Contenders. So if you can't beat them....

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Posted By: eric_c
Date Posted: 20 Jan 22 at 4:24pm
Originally posted by iGRF

So finally I've given in and conformed, you even get a certificate, like a logbook, telling you not to f**k about with it. First thing happens, I couldn't hide it down the boat park cos they're digging it up and resurfacing, so red handed it's in the drive, the Mrs now figuring on what she wants next as compensation after the tongue lashing (Why do you need ANOTHER boat!.)

A Contender FFS, well I guess at least I'll be able to walk under the boom, if that is I mange to launch it without getting a hernia.

And I'm going to get such a thrashing when its windy, probably wether they like it or not, I'll have to get a smaller rag at the end of the day, what's worse, not going out, or being chucked out for not being class legal?
 


AIUI, Keith Paul used to race one pretty effectively with a sail cut short in the leach?
Otherwise, forget about walking under the boom, there is a story of a Contender forestay pulling clean out of the deck at a Plymouth Nationals, the mast didn't even fall down because the clew was nearly on the aft deck anyway.


Posted By: Grumpycat
Date Posted: 20 Jan 22 at 4:40pm
Any update on how the new contender is shaping up ? 

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 20 Jan 22 at 7:44pm
Originally posted by Grumpycat

Any update on how the new contender is shaping up ?†


Ask me about the new kitchen makeover I've had to cough up as penance, that's doing fine thanks, as to the Contender it's exactly where I parked it up on the drive last year, whilst the torrent of grand people, their parents, their parents dogs, their xmas gifts, their vehicles and all the other detritus of modern xmas passed through.

Then the beach replenishment started, every year they wait for the perfect time (just before the winter storms that come along and remove their efforts) giant tonka toy articulated monster dumpster trucks carry shingle the length of Princes Parade (about two miles), we longingly look on from the coffee shack we visit, wishing we could be monster truck drivers and plotting to put in a bid for the contract just for the joy.

Meanwhile forget launching new Contenders over the ruts they create and contemplate designing a revolutionary Contender launching sled with a block and tackle device attached to the promenade wall. Rig Contender on the sled, sail it down the beach, as Contender floats off, a rope attached to the rear of the boat engages and pulls the sled back up the beach. The rope being continuous attached to weighted buoy drop below low water mark and on return, reverse process.

I wish...

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Posted By: Grumpycat
Date Posted: 20 Jan 22 at 8:19pm
Sorry to hear that , hope they get it sorted soon so you can get to grips with your new toy .

As a pond monkey itís easy to forget not every sailor just turns up at the same location, at the same time, all year round and go sailing 99.9% of the time . 


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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 20 Jan 22 at 8:25pm
Have you still got your Sprint ? Hoping to do something this year, probably piggy back a CVRDA event, good weekend, you can meet some of the wood botherers.

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 20 Jan 22 at 10:05pm
Originally posted by 423zero


Have you still got your Sprint ? Hoping to do something this year, probably piggy back a CVRDA event, good weekend, you can meet some of the wood botherers.


Noo don't remind me, another disaster. I'd pretty much sold it, bear in mind it's been down the lake all through lock up and more, so I go to get some pics of it, for the would be new owner and..



The only redeeming part of that boat was the brand new sail, and it's now got extra windows, if it isn't otters or mink taking up residence it's mice or whatever else thinks dacron is a tasty dish. At this rate I'll be paying someone to take it away or take a chain saw to it for landfill.

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 20 Jan 22 at 10:31pm
wow, sorry for laughing, trouble and strife must be your middle name.

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 20 Jan 22 at 11:06pm
Originally posted by 423zero

wow, sorry for laughing, trouble and strife must be your middle name.


No, I'm married it's her name.

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 20 Jan 22 at 11:19pm
Insurance? You are probably right about getting rid of it, only someone interested in Minisails would take on the Hull.

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Robert


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 21 Jan 22 at 6:01pm
May be a old sail down the club, will check and get back to you, probably tatty, but will give you a chance to sell boat.

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Posted By: The Moo
Date Posted: 22 Jan 22 at 5:33pm
One of the golden rules of dinghy parking. Never ever leave the sails onboard, particularly for extended periods.

Does the Minisprint have a suggested PY? It looks like it could be a hoot.
(Message to Grumpy Cat... No I am not.😁)


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 22 Jan 22 at 6:01pm
PY is 1225  
https://www.minisail.org.uk/


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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 22 Jan 22 at 6:03pm


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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 24 Jan 22 at 9:12am
I think I have finally worked iGRF out - he buys a boat which sits on his driveway. He spends all his time on here trolling and then he sells it. I wonder if he can actually even sail a boat. Has anyone ever actually seen him on the water? Is there a small chance he is in fact just some weird russian bot sent to plague middle England?

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 24 Jan 22 at 10:11am
No, he isn't Russian, certain of that.

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 24 Jan 22 at 4:51pm
Originally posted by H2

I think I have finally worked iGRF out - he buys a boat which sits on his driveway. He spends all his time on here trolling and then he sells it. I wonder if he can actually even sail a boat. Has anyone ever actually seen him on the water? Is there a small chance he is in fact just some weird russian bot sent to plague middle England?


Here's one of me sailing and it's got a special message just for you H2..

Photo removed - MJ


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 25 Jan 22 at 9:57am
Griff, sorry to strike a bum note, can't find a sail for you.

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 25 Jan 22 at 10:03am
Originally posted by 423zero

Griff, sorry to strike a bum note, can't find a sail for you.


I got to the bottom of the problem thanks have found a spare, nice to get a break once in a blue moon.

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 25 Jan 22 at 10:15am
Put it 'Behind' you.

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Robert


Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 25 Jan 22 at 10:27am
Love it! Although looks like you planned to go horse riding with that hat and ended up sailing by mistake.

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Posted By: Grumpycat
Date Posted: 25 Jan 22 at 2:27pm
Originally posted by H2

Love it! Although looks like you planned to go horse riding with that hat and ended up sailing by mistake.

Just think what we would have missed if GRF had taken up horse riding instead of sailing . 

Oh well , the pony clubs loss is our gain LOL


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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 25 Jan 22 at 6:05pm
Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by H2

I think I have finally worked iGRF out - he buys a boat which sits on his driveway. He spends all his time on here trolling and then he sells it. I wonder if he can actually even sail a boat. Has anyone ever actually seen him on the water? Is there a small chance he is in fact just some weird russian bot sent to plague middle England?


Here's one of me sailing and it's got a special message just for you H2..



Not sure that's the kind of bot H2 had in mind?


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 25 Jan 22 at 7:12pm
He has become the Butt of jokes on here Angry

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Posted By: A2Z
Date Posted: 25 Jan 22 at 7:28pm
Originally posted by iGRF

 

Here's one of me sailing and it's got a special message just for you H2..







Posted By: Grumpycat
Date Posted: 25 Jan 22 at 7:28pm
Originally posted by 423zero

He has become the Butt of jokes on here Angry

LOLLOLLOLTongueWink


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Posted By: The Moo
Date Posted: 27 Jan 22 at 10:22am
Is he sailing an aRSe?


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 27 Jan 22 at 3:01pm
He has been censored, MJ has seen enough.

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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 27 Jan 22 at 3:03pm
Originally posted by 423zero

He has been censored, MJ has seen enough.

I believe you mean 'seen too much'...


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 27 Jan 22 at 3:08pm
I know that hat, phew.

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 27 Jan 22 at 4:34pm
If he only knew the truth of it, operation yewtree would be in full swing, I think the female helm was only fifteen at the time, but I wasn't there, I was at a Pizza restaurant in Woking.

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 28 Jan 22 at 11:09am
You were lucky, Gok was about to do an intervention.
You going to sail it this weekend?

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 10 Apr 22 at 8:03pm
Well finally I got the Contender on the water today, very little wind in the first race, which I completed 2nd to last, and not much more in the 2nd race but began to get the feel for it and as usual once the races were over the wind came up enough to get on the wire.

What can I say, well for starters I wasn't really firing on all cyclinders, this damn covid is lingering, going through the lethargic can't be asked phased so I kind of forced myself out there.

Couldn't get it to point, it doesn't handle like anything I've sailed before, not that it's difficult to sail, but it just doesn't work with my normal techniques, like stuffing it off the line, and as to trying to row it with a bit of kinetic input, by Christ it's heavy and takes it out of you, I lasted one reach then thought I was going to faint.

In the occasional puff you sort of have to free it off, the first tiller extension out of the bag was this plastic tube wobbly thing which was a right pain in the neck and trying to apply lee helm was a ball ache so I couldn't induce the flow over the foils to get it to the point I could harden up to where I thought it ought to be.

The next race was a little breezier and I minaged to hook in enough to sit out, and managed to piss it in during a tack with the bloody main sheet re-engaing after I'd uncleated it, it's one mother of a boat to get back upright, I hate to think what's going to happen when there really is some wind. As it was it was all I could do to beat the fastest laser out there who took me up wind and I had to jiggery pokery him sailing low back offwind so I wasn't exactly last in both races, but nowhere near the other Contenders, I'm going to have to take it out and maybe practise in it.
Straight on the water into a start line after a long layoff and illness perhaps not the way to approach things, but whatever it was better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick and at least I'm now on the mend physically, think I might have to pound the pavements this week try and rebuild my fitness, I'm going to enjoy learning how to make this thing go.

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Posted By: Grumpycat
Date Posted: 10 Apr 22 at 10:42pm
Glad your feeling better . When I had covid over Christmas it took me three weeks after my last positive test before felt ok and got rid of a persistent cough. 
You will enjoy learning to sail to contender properly. It might even stop you rocking .LOL


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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 11 Apr 22 at 6:08am
Did the other Contenders point higher?

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 11 Apr 22 at 8:29am
The only time I got close enough to one he tacked off rightly rather than have me on his lee. Then having got the shift I thought would massacre him, I had my misfortunate tack into the drink, so I don't know, but you know what it's like, if you don't feel you're doing it right, then you aint, like it says in the other thread a lot of it is in your head and mine was muddled.

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 11 Apr 22 at 9:01am
Brave of you to go out, good job the wind was light, might have turned you completely off the boat.

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 11 Apr 22 at 9:42am
Originally posted by 423zero

Brave of you to go out, good job the wind was light, might have turned you completely off the boat.


No quite the opposite I've yet to meet a boat I can't get going in light weather, I'll work it out, I was late as well, literally just flung it together, didn't tune the sail, had a crap tiller extension had no idea what to expect really but as you say it was light so low risk. It's also the first time in decades I've come across a totally 'soft' sail with no full batten anywhere other than right at the head, so trying to get a decent AOA is also going to be problematic in light weather.

I did get a taste after the race of comfortably wiring (must have been all of 8 knots) then everything worked, could go high and it slowed a bit or foot it off and it flies which is what it likes, those massive foils just deliver once they've got water flowing over them, it's just working out how to make it go faster than the others, that may be a problem if there are no tactical things on offer.

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 11 Apr 22 at 11:59am
I subscribe to the flat sail in light winds, pull on everything till your knuckles crack, reduce wind resistance.

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 11 Apr 22 at 1:01pm
Yes, they did point out I didn't have any outhaul on, can't say the rest of the Contenderati were anything but helpful, that of course will probably change if I start getting my nose ahead.

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Posted By: Old bloke
Date Posted: 11 Apr 22 at 1:20pm
Everything???


Posted By: rich96
Date Posted: 11 Apr 22 at 1:41pm
These boats will always be slow in the light - not much rocker so lots of wetted area, a long boom so the leech gets pulled tight (better now with a carbon boom but still not great).

If you can be close to or beat Lasers in sib trapezing weather you are doing ok.

Just accept that you will win nothing in the light on handicap and everything in the breeze (if you sail it right !).

Amazing beautiful boats - but only when its windy (F3 upwards).

Enjoy it.









Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 17 Apr 22 at 8:04pm
Well had a bit of a result 1st race today, the boys adjusted the rig raked it a bit more, (two more holes down) and they checked it by measuring with a tape measure, then one of those Loos Guages thingys I haven't seen since my MPS days. I still wasn't feeling really on it, but it was yet another light wind day which looked like it might get up coming from the East as it was on a rising tide which usually delivers a sideshore thermal, but not so today by the time I got out to the start line it was difficult to tell if there was anything and where it was coming from.

Then a few zephyrs appeared here and there and got some movement happening and I noticed the Port end was well favoured so hung around and banged a flyer in thinking they wouldn't even make it over the line on starboard, but they did and put me about so I banged left, they'd all swung back and were headed out to sea, which meant they missed a lolly little knock which once tacked on with a favorable tide meant I could sail it a bit free with the tide lifing me and bingo I'm in the frame for rounding first. Which was ruined by one of the Contenderati preferring to use his 10 mtr RS100 with kite and then the other Contender hot shot who took me using my favorite tactic sailing low into an oncoming tide, I'm struggling to make it go offwind, then the gybe results inot a very deep reach into an oncoming tide and I get lucky spotting that inshore header and flack over for a slow port dog leg, which proves better then tryinbg to dea run it and gets me to the bottom mark first, I round up and its now almost a fetch I can sail my style holding the boom to feel the pressure and slightly fee and I manage to get the bitch moving at last and begin to pull away. Eventually I end up just stealing the over the water line honours from my chum in his Phantom, which is really quick in these conditions, but it did wonders for my confidence in that it is possible, I'd beaten all the other Contenders, which last week I'd never have thought likely in a monthy of Sundays.

The wind had picked up a bit as the race was continuing so I stayed on for a 2nd race even though I was feeling knackered, got a good start and 1st beat got to the windward mark 1st again but it all fell apart again offwind and long story short I went from 1st to last as a combination of issues like last week decended upon my sad sorry arse including the infernal top batten constantly inverting offwind which drove me mental, but whatever, 2nd time out I'd got them in at least one race this last race can be blamed on fatigue and no residual technique to fall back on, I hate tacking with the too long wiggle stick, I hate the centre mainsheet position, all the rope, the length of the boat you have to run up and down, to the point I'm considering rear sheeting and some jury rigged off boom sheeting with cleat, haven't quite worked out yet what I'm going to do, but I can't be having all the stupid disasters that keep befalling me because my technique doesn't match this boat, so something's going to have to change and at my age it can't be me.

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