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Topic: duty points
Posted By: Kev M
Subject: duty points
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 4:10pm
How does your club award series points for being on duty? Mine doesnt, but I'm organisimg a one off series in November and I don't want to penalise people on duty who are racing in the rest of the series.

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Successfully confusing ambition with ability since 1980.



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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 4:21pm
Average points excluding DNCs. We use average of all races in the series, so the points total will change as the series progresses.


Posted By: Roger
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 4:39pm
Originally posted by JimC

Average points excluding DNCs. We use average of all races in the series, so the points total will change as the series progresses.


We do exactly the same, it does mean a few will have their calculators out as the series progresses.




Posted By: Kev M
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 6:14pm
Just to be clear is it the average of the points the sailor has scored or the average of yhe points available?

If the former then someone who has sailed with few other people would do better from a duty than someone who has sailed against many people assuking both are mid fleet finishers.

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Successfully confusing ambition with ability since 1980.


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 6:40pm
Average of what the sailor scoreline other races. Very easy to overthink this, but to my mind the object of the exercise is not to try and guess what result the competitor might have had in that particular race, but to give a figure for what they might have scored with one more race in the series.    
The alternative would be to hold something like a protest hearing in which you say, well in that weather Bill is usually ahead of John who was 5th but behind Jane who was 9th and there lies insanity...


Posted By: Kev M
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 7:28pm
Thanks Jim, I can go with that.

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Successfully confusing ambition with ability since 1980.


Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 9:01pm
Average of all races in the series except DNCs is what we use to.


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 9:14pm
Wish I could convince our club to do this - most of my previous clubs have.

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Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 10:17pm
The system I have been told to use is the average of all the races that count minus the number of duties done. Thus in a 16 race series with 9 to count, where somebody misses two races through doing duties, you take the average of the best 7 results and give that to the dutyman x 2 to make up the 9 results. If he or she has only finished 6 races in the series than of course you count one DNC in the average.


Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 11:02pm
Thats not a bad way of doing it Nick.



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