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Medway, i would think it is a fair bit lighter then the
Milanes blade and carbon winder stock. I will weight it
with he blade in o see the difference. Also if i hit a
rock won't my centre board be the main issue??? I actually
think that dagger rudders are easier to use, no grief with
the downhaul uncleating, or having to push a lock pin
through, you know the blade is all the way down, no need to
refill and drill the pivot hole once every couple of years,
no worry of anything getting caught between the stock and
blade locking the rudder half up and half down! they are
simple light and effective.
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For sure, your Milanes blade will be heavy, but from my memory I don't think the Winder stock/blade combo is at all heavy.

Having watched our resident MPS sailor crashing into the beach on many an occasion, I reckon that getting both a dagger board and dagger rudder up late enough is a bit tricky! Just getting to the blade and pulling it up in time seems to be a challenge, esp. if it's tight enough not to rattle in the stock. You can uncleat a pivoting rudder well in advance and it just pops up undamaged when it needs to (the Winder blade seemed to handily stick just a little when right down).

Never had any problems with my Winder rudder not being fully down except when I broke the downhaul rope on a rock, but that would probably have meant a broken blade or transom with a dagger.

I've never needed to fill and redrill any blade. What are you doing with it?!

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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

For sure, your Milanes blade
will be heavy, but from my memory I don't think the
Winder stock/blade combo is at all heavy.


Having watched our resident MPS sailor crashing into
the beach on many an occasion, I reckon that getting both
a dagger board and dagger rudder up late enough is a bit
tricky! Just getting to the blade and pulling it up in
time seems to be a challenge, esp. if it's tight enough
not to rattle in the stock. You can uncleat a pivoting
rudder well in advance and it just pops up undamaged when
it needs to (the Winder blade seemed to handily stick
just a little when right down).


Never had any problems with my Winder rudder not being
fully down except when I broke the downhaul rope on a
rock, but that would probably have meant a broken blade
or transom with a dagger.


I've never needed to fill and redrill any blade. What
are you doing with it?!



I was talking about lifting rudders in general. My RS
blades needed the pivbolt holes filling and redrilling.
No problem with this as its a maintance issue, but a pain
all the same. With a dagger rudder you can pull it up a
bit at a time and still not have a loaded rudder (like
you do when you partially lift a lifting version) the
running into the beach scenario isn't such a problem in a
phantom as you have a board up and down control and the
boat is slower and more stable then a musto so you have
more time! My Milanese blade is very light for a wooden sheathed blade, but not as light (i suspect) as a full
carbon job) As mentioned before, if i had the
choice/time again i would buy the dagger style over the
traditional lifting every time. But different strokes
for different folks i guess!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Merlinboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jun 10 at 9:15pm

Old broken Winder stock is now on ebay folks!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300 441988178&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

 

If that don't work its item number:

300441988178

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