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iGRF 
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 Topic: Is that it then?Posted: 23 Nov 21 at 2:04pm |
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Are we ever going to see another performance racing dinghy released?
After the spate of D0, Aero and H2, all great boats but not everyones cup of tea, are we never going to see anything new, is it game over for new builds? Back to putting lipstick on pigs then? |
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423zero
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Posted: 23 Nov 21 at 3:11pm |
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Not strictly performance, but I would like a dinghy for beach use, simple to use, a windsurf dinghy, would like it to be fast as well.
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Do Different
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Posted: 23 Nov 21 at 3:24pm |
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In some ways I hope it is it for a while.
You are a successful marine leisure businessman so I can partly understand your drivers and frustration. While we type and witter on about relative differences and subtle nuances there may be a load of potential entrants to the pastime who simply want to hear simple language and be presented with a few clear options. Get people sailing for the fun of it, that seems a more pressing priority to me for the time being and there are plenty of boats already in circulation to fulfil that role. To my mind there are two issues going on and I am not sure they have much in common. A thriving small boat industry and mass participation in simply sailing. |
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Rupert
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Posted: 23 Nov 21 at 4:09pm |
Maverick? Suspect not fast, though. |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Mark Aged 42
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Posted: 23 Nov 21 at 4:36pm |
You mean - the Laser. It might catch on, you never know
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H2
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Posted: 23 Nov 21 at 5:21pm |
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There was that "Foiling Dinghy" that launched at last years boat show which looked like a D0 with foils off an America Cup boat. Looked cool to my eye and probably fun to razz around in but not something I would seek to race. My personal view is that it is super hard to get into the singlehanders market - you either need to be a corporate with the heft of RS or else you need to be a niche player willing to take a bit of a "lifestyle view" of business in that you do it because you love it but are retired or have a second income which is actually exactly where the H2 is at. We have seen a number of classes be tried by the mass market builders and be quickly cast aside if they do not hit the volume targets required which is the key blocker that I see in the market today.
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H2 #115 (sold)
H2 145 OK 2082 |
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davidyacht
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Posted: 23 Nov 21 at 5:23pm |
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What the sport needs is some 20 to 30 year old designers and boat builders to design and build what they want, not boats for dinosaurs like us.
Probably will have foils and some kind of wing thing that you can hold onto and wave in the air ...
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Happily living in the past
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iGRF
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Posted: 23 Nov 21 at 6:09pm |
We're already gearing up for Wing foiling as the inand waters open up to it, can't see it catching on as a race sport for somewhile, we've had kitefoiling for some time but it's growth aint natural, kind of force fed as a potential Olympic pathway, not gathering huge momentum, well not in this country anyway. I suppose it's my windsurfing background that needs a new board every couple of years to keep the interest focussed, trouble is everything I seem to show the remotest interest in genuinely does up and die, I'm even finding myself looking at OKs FFS still can't quite understand the attraction. I just don't quite get why the rest of y'all don't want new stuff and if it does come along like the other things I like, bikes,m/cycles, boards etc, just rush out and buy.. Edited by iGRF - 23 Nov 21 at 6:17pm |
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JimC
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Posted: 23 Nov 21 at 6:16pm |
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True performance dinghies haven't been selling well for years, especially adult ones. I expect the RS800 is as popular as any and the highest sail number I spotted in their 2021 champs results was 1247, and in the 2018 results 1232. 5 boats a year. Damn, I bet people are just queueing up for a share of that action.
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iGRF
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Posted: 23 Nov 21 at 6:19pm |
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So is it a lack of uptake to racing generally or performance rather than washing bowls in particular I wonder.
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